๏§๏§๏ "3 Idiots" - Aamir Khan-Rajkumar Hirani - Biggest Opening Ever !!!!!! ๏§๏§๏ - Page 51

kiroo · 01-05-2010, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Hari Kuttan

Those multitudes who have read Chetan Bhagat's book novel Five Point Someone would agree there are uncanny resemblances between the novel and Rajkumar Hirani's 3 Idiots. The film apparently set out to adapt Bhagat's novel and then decided to go its own way, for whatever reason. Chetan Bhagat shouts foul as he finds his name missing from the opening credits of 3 Idiots, instead they are in the rolling credits in the end. On the other hand, the producers of the film claim that it was mentioned in the contract that Chetan had signed. Hurt and amused Chetan reacts.

You must be very upset by the latest proceedings?
You're a writer. You should know how it feels to have credit taken away from you. And it's not something only I'm saying. It's out there. The book is there. The film is there. They've tried to take away from my contribution. My name is at the very end of the credit titles after the junior artistes and still photographers. From the time they started making the film, they've been stressing that their product is different. It's like a systematic effort (to underplay my contribution). If you read the book and saw the film, you'll see the similarities.

My name is at the very end of the credit titles after the junior artistes and still photographers

So would you say 3 Idiots is an adaptation of your novel?
3 Idiots is a total adaptation of my book. Some things are direct lifts, others indirect adaptations.

Aamir thinks you are trying to take away credit from the film's writer Abhijat Joshi?
I heard his comments. But then he says he hasn't read the book. There's no denying Abhijat has done the screenplay. What Abhijat has done with my book can only be known if you've read it. If Aamir is so concerned about Abhijat not getting the publicity, he should let Abhijat talk. I very much respect Aamir. He's the reason I thought the project would have a lot of integrity. I know for a fact he was told not to read my book because they told him it'd affect his understanding of his story. I was told it was a different script.

Even dialogues about matar-paneer and Maruti 800 cars are from my novel. The novel was set in the 1990s. Aaj Maruti 800 kaun bolega?

How would Aamir's perception have been affected if he read the book?
I don't know. I'm on a firm footing with the facts. See the film, read the book. And judge for yourself. The whole plot-structure narrative, even dialogues about matar-paneer and Maruti 800 cars are from my novel. The novel was set in the 1990s. Aaj Maruti 800 kaun bolega? I mention 42 exams and 16 broken bones in my body. They have kept the same numbers in the film. Kareena's brother committing on the railway tracks…so many other things in the film; it's all there in my novel.

Vidhu Vinod Chopra and Aamir have accused you of trying to make mileage out of their movie?
If I didn't take up the issue properly, I wouldn't have been able to live with myself. If someone else goes and collects the award for best story at the awards functions how will I feel? Only once I met Aamir. When I landed at Bangalore where they were shooting 3 Idiots they said, 'Don't come we've too many visitors.' They prevented me from going on the set. The book has been selling for six years. There're lakhs of fans of the book. It's not about Chetan being naraaz and Aamir being naraaz. My issue is not with Aamir. When the other film Hello based on my novel One Night At The Call Centre came, did I say one word against the characterizations or treatment? I was credited properly for that. I haven't been credited for 3 Idiots.

When I landed at Bangalore where they were shooting 3 Idiots they said, 'Don't come we've too many visitors.' They prevented me from going on the set.

Have you become embittered towards Bollywood?
You could make up any kind of contract. But is there any contract that stops people from being petty? My last novel Three Mistakes Of My Life is being directed by Abhishek Kapoor. I am co-scripting it. There's a lot of interest in adapting my latest novel 2 States: The Story Of My Life. I don't think there would be any problem with future project. With 3 Idiots, I know I'm in the right. I'm just telling people to see the film and read my book. I know Aamir is a very powerful person. But finally the truth has to prevail, no? I'm no great artiste. But there has to be fair play. I'm being accused of trying to get mileage.10 lakh copies of the book have been sold. The book has been read by 1 crore readers. Wouldn't they know the truth?

What do you intend to do?
The makers of 3 Idiots are busy with their victory tours all over the country. They're naturally being asked about the similarities between my book and the film. Sorry I spoilt their celebrations. The truth had to be told. I've been told by them, 'You're just a writer. You don't realize how big we are.' Maybe I don't realize how big they are. Main kya karoon? But the truth is above everything. Aisa nahin ke pura Bollywood kharaab hai.

Do you think you'll be ostracized by Bollywood after this incident?
I'm not dependent on Bollywood for my livelihood. I'm a big Krishna bhakt. I'll follow the right path. If I'm wrong I'll leave writing and join ISKCON. What does a writer want? That his words should make a change in society. Maybe by taking up this issue I hope to bring about a change in the way writers are treated. Vidhu Vinod Chopra assured me that he would treat me like a king. Kahan ka raja?

Vidhu Vinod Chopra assured me that he would treat me like a king. Kahan ka raja?

What do you hope to achieve?
When they go to pick up the story award I want people to know whose story it is. When they make eye contact with their children they should know they're lying. We've to show that truth comes before everything else. I don't write for money or glamour. I just need paper and pen. Lord Krishna takes care of the rest.

"Aamir is very powerful man, but finally the truth has to prevail" - Chetan Bhagat

Mr.Cool · 01-06-2010, 10:05 AM

Five Point Someone v/s 3 Idiots - A closer look

Well, so almost all of Five Point Someone but for a chapter has found its way into 3 Idiots in one form or the other. And just for that reason alone, Chetan Bhagat ought to have got a story credit right upfront. Coming up with a parallel narrative of what happens 10 years ago alone does not change the entire story, however interesting or entertaining the twists are.

But seriously, imagine the suspension of disbelief and the convenience of co-incidences that Hirani and Joshi in that parallel original narrative that has nothing to do with the book. I mean what are the chances that the girl is getting married the same day as the day of the bet and the day Ranchoddass’s father died and the time Silencer/Chatur has to meet Phunsukh Wangdu and his lost classmate with whom he’s had a bet turns out to be Wangdu?

Yes, Hirani says they have fulfilled the contract and given the writer the credit he was promised but does that really entitle him to claim ownership of the story?
The ‘Work for Hire’ is a generic clause that negates all contribution from the writer and transfers ownership of the idea to the producer and the work is treated as commissioned. Bhagat unwittingly signed a contract with this deadly clause that now leaves him helpless.

There’s what you can do legally and what you have to do morally. Especially, when you teach us moral science lessons film after film.

Hirani has fallen in my eyes. If this can happen to one of the most popular writers in the country, then imagine the plight of the lesser known.

First, it was Aamir taking over a writer’s film as a director. Yes, he did a fantastic job no doubt but there’s no denying the arm-twisting. Then, there was a case about a lesser known writer claiming that Lage Raho Munnabhai was inspired from a concept note he submitted of a film he wanted to make called Gandhi and The Kid.
Hirani and Co ought to learn from Vishal Bhardwaj who credited a rather unknown Cajetan Boy for just the idea of Kaminey right at the beginning of the film and even named a character after the screenwriter he met at a seminar.

We crib about lack of writers and scripts all the time. But if this is how we treat them, how can we expect writers to come up with original ideas and trust them to Bollywood?

Lucky for Bhagat, his novel is still available for us to compare and discover. God bless the rest.

P.S: I love 3 Idiots as a film, however manipulative it is emotionally and I think Hirani is an excellent filmmaker who knows his craft and despite its flaws. Also Abhijat Joshi and Hirani have put together a decent screenplay with some really well written moments but that’s not the point of this post. The point of the post is if Bhagat should have also been credited for the Story.
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Mr.Cool · 01-06-2010, 10:07 AM

Three Idiots after just its second weekend has became the second biggest grosser ever overseas. The figures of the biggest grossers in overseas are as follows. All figures in US Dollars.

1. Kabhi Alvida Na Kehna - $10.75m

2. Three Idiots - $10.40m (still running)

3. Om Shanti Om - $10m

4. Dhoom 2 - $8.60m

5. Rab Ne Bana Di Jodi - $8.40m

http://www.boxofficeindia.com/npages.php?page=shownews&articleid=1399&nCat=news

saji · 01-06-2010, 10:13 AM

Thanks cool.....I agree with the article....

Do give credits.

saji · 01-06-2010, 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Cool

Three Idiots after just its second weekend has became the second biggest grosser ever overseas. The figures of the biggest grossers in overseas are as follows. All figures in US Dollars.

1. Kabhi Alvida Na Kehna - $10.75m

2. Three Idiots - $10.40m (still running)

3. Om Shanti Om - $10m

4. Dhoom 2 - $8.60m

5. Rab Ne Bana Di Jodi - $8.40m

http://www.boxofficeindia.com/npages.php?page=shownews&articleid=1399&nCat=news

3 Idiots kansas citiyil polum second week almost house full kalikkunnu....

njaan ivide otta cinema 30 peril kooduthal aalukalude koode irunnu kandittilla...

3I also when I saw there was only 40/180

Mr.Cool · 01-06-2010, 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saji

3 Idiots kansas citiyil polum second week almost house full kalikkunnu....

njaan ivide otta cinema 30 peril kooduthal aalukalude koode irunnu kandittilla...

3I also when I saw there was only 40/180

University theatre aano?

saji · 01-06-2010, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Cool

University theatre aano?

alla......ivide 2 theatersil vannu..aduthulla theateril aalu kuravaa...but 1 week odi...

matte theater aanu kooduthal Indians (IT and other jolikkaar) thaamasikkunnathinaduthu...avide van thirakkaanu

Sootran · 01-06-2010, 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Cool

Three Idiots after just its second weekend has became the second biggest grosser ever overseas. The figures of the biggest grossers in overseas are as follows. All figures in US Dollars.

1. Kabhi Alvida Na Kehna - $10.75m

2. Three Idiots - $10.40m (still running)

3. Om Shanti Om - $10m

4. Dhoom 2 - $8.60m

5. Rab Ne Bana Di Jodi - $8.40m

http://www.boxofficeindia.com/npages.php?page=shownews&articleid=1399&nCat=news

3 SRK padangal

. MNIK koode aakumbo, first 6 il 4 um SRK padangal aakum.

btw GHajini biggest overseas hit ennokke paranjittu evide?

saji · 01-06-2010, 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sootran

3 SRK padangal

. MNIK koode aakumbo, first 6 il 4 um SRK padangal aakum.

btw GHajini biggest overseas hit ennokke paranjittu evide?

Overseas SRK aanu hit...pakshe ippol Amir overall super performance aayathukondu preference maaraan saadhyatha undu..

Germanyil okke SRK oru thaaram aanu...like Rajni in Japan..

double chankan · 01-06-2010, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Sootran

3 SRK padangal

. MNIK koode aakumbo, first 6 il 4 um SRK padangal aakum.

btw GHajini biggest overseas hit ennokke paranjittu evide?

mammootyde dubai market pole SRKku over seas..

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01-06-2010, 10:05 AM	#502 (permalink)
Mr.Cool Active User Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 607 Rep Power: 180	Five Point Someone v/s 3 Idiots - A closer look Well, so almost all of Five Point Someone but for a chapter has found its way into 3 Idiots in one form or the other. And just for that reason alone, Chetan Bhagat ought to have got a story credit right upfront. Coming up with a parallel narrative of what happens 10 years ago alone does not change the entire story, however interesting or entertaining the twists are. But seriously, imagine the suspension of disbelief and the convenience of co-incidences that Hirani and Joshi in that parallel original narrative that has nothing to do with the book. I mean what are the chances that the girl is getting married the same day as the day of the bet and the day Ranchoddass’s father died and the time Silencer/Chatur has to meet Phunsukh Wangdu and his lost classmate with whom he’s had a bet turns out to be Wangdu? Yes, Hirani says they have fulfilled the contract and given the writer the credit he was promised but does that really entitle him to claim ownership of the story? The ‘Work for Hire’ is a generic clause that negates all contribution from the writer and transfers ownership of the idea to the producer and the work is treated as commissioned. Bhagat unwittingly signed a contract with this deadly clause that now leaves him helpless. There’s what you can do legally and what you have to do morally. Especially, when you teach us moral science lessons film after film. Hirani has fallen in my eyes. If this can happen to one of the most popular writers in the country, then imagine the plight of the lesser known. First, it was Aamir taking over a writer’s film as a director. Yes, he did a fantastic job no doubt but there’s no denying the arm-twisting. Then, there was a case about a lesser known writer claiming that Lage Raho Munnabhai was inspired from a concept note he submitted of a film he wanted to make called Gandhi and The Kid. Hirani and Co ought to learn from Vishal Bhardwaj who credited a rather unknown Cajetan Boy for just the idea of Kaminey right at the beginning of the film and even named a character after the screenwriter he met at a seminar. We crib about lack of writers and scripts all the time. But if this is how we treat them, how can we expect writers to come up with original ideas and trust them to Bollywood? Lucky for Bhagat, his novel is still available for us to compare and discover. God bless the rest. P.S: I love 3 Idiots as a film, however manipulative it is emotionally and I think Hirani is an excellent filmmaker who knows his craft and despite its flaws. Also Abhijat Joshi and Hirani have put together a decent screenplay with some really well written moments but that’s not the point of this post. The point of the post is if Bhagat should have also been credited for the Story. --

01-06-2010, 10:07 AM	#503 (permalink)
Mr.Cool Active User Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 607 Rep Power: 180	Three Idiots after just its second weekend has became the second biggest grosser ever overseas. The figures of the biggest grossers in overseas are as follows. All figures in US Dollars. 1. Kabhi Alvida Na Kehna - $10.75m 2. Three Idiots - $10.40m (still running) 3. Om Shanti Om - $10m 4. Dhoom 2 - $8.60m 5. Rab Ne Bana Di Jodi - $8.40m http://www.boxofficeindia.com/npages.php?page=shownews&articleid=1399&nCat=news